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- [S6] Wade, David M. Jr., David M. Wade, (1997), Exchange of email between David M. Wade, Jr. and Paul F. Kelly, August 9th through 12th , 1997 (Reliability: 3).
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> Family Group
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> Subject* John BIGGERS
> Birth* 07 Dec 1839
> Father*
> Mother*
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> Marriage* __ ___ ____
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> Spouse* Margaret VANBROCKLIN
> Birth* 13 Apr 1831
> Father*
> Mother*
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> Five Children
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> ?/F Stella BIGGERS
> Reference* __ ___ ____
> Birth* __ ___ 1871
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> ?/M Arthur BIGGERS
> Reference* __ ___ ____
> Birth* __ ___ 1872
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> ?/F Lucetta BIGGERS
> Reference* __ ___ ____
> Birth* __ ___ 1875
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> ?/M George BIGGERS
> Reference* __ ___ ____
> Birth* __ May 1877
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> ?/F Eva BIGGERS
> Reference* __ ___ ____
> Birth* __ Aug 1879
> Residence* 13 Jun 1900
> Son: 23 Nov 1903 Walter N. WEBERT
> Death* __ ___ 1906
> Son: Clay WEBERT
> Son: Paul WEBERT
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> Printed on: 10 Aug 1997
> Prepared by:
> Paul F. Kelly
> 1011 Mohr Lane #2
> Concord, CA 94518-4306
> pkelly@netvista.net
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> Paul, I just sent a message and then I came back and to screen and your imformation on your line came through. Eva is my Arthur's sister.
John II and Margaret VanBrocklin were married 1/17/1869 in most likely
Jefferson Co. NY as this is where she was born. As mention in the
previous note I believe I found the original family farm on a1864 map
near Theresa, NY and John and Margaret both died in Theresa,NY. Arthur
was also born in Theresa it would problem be reasonable to assume your
Eva was born on this same family farm. John II died 1/12/93 and Margaret
on 4/12/1885 in my records I have been past down that the place of death
was Phlesis / Theresa NY. Your records on their children are much like
mine but I have an Anna b.1876 not a Lucetta b. 1875 probably is the
same daughter and they called her Anna. The date could have just been
last down wrong as I had your Eva b.1880 now you've past on Aug 1879.
George was noted in my records as being a carpenter. As I read my
records I see that there was a daughter Cornelia b. 1860 from a previous
marriage by Margaret yet I don't see a difference her maiden name in my
records on the Van Brocklin line which I have a father & grandfather
named VanBrocklin for her Line along with her brothers and sisters.
These will follow. John II was married a second time to a woman I can't
put my hands on her name right now but they had children named Bert, Ira
& Gertrude. There are marked graves of this family in NY. I know my
mother has seen them but I'm not 100% but I believe she has seen John
II.
Margaret Van Brocklin Line
Father: Nicholas Van Brocklin b. 6/25/1794
Born: German Flats Herkimer Co. NY
Date of Christening: 7/19/1794
father: Harpet Van Brocklin
- [S6] Wade, David M. Jr., David M. Wade, (1997), David M. Wade (Reliability: 3), 17 Jan 2006.
From: David M. Wade Jr.
To: Paul Kelly
Subject: Re: Biggers
Date: Friday, August 15, 1997 8:54 PM
Paul,
Got your message about photocopies and I just wanted to inform you that the powers that
be are already in motion. My mother never has really expressed an interest in the
search of heritage and history, yet once I informed her of someone related to her
Grandfather Arthur Biggers, well... She has called me to tell me she got all her
records and documents out. We are both in the process of getting all these lines and
supporting documents into a format her Grandchildren & Great-Grandchildren can have.
You though won't have to wait that long as soon as I'm sure we've got all are notes
properly copied they along will copies of all other documents will be on the way to you
& your family. These papers will include the family line written by Arthur's own hand.
I have been reviewing the Biggers line more this week and I can now tell you that John I
came to America at the age of 38 somewhere in the range of 1842-43. He started a Carding
Mill in Dexter N.Y. His farm was 2 miles north of Brownsville N.Y. Wife Fannie Harris
died at age 56. Their children were: John II b. 1839 England // George b. abt. 1842
England // Maria b.1844 New York //James (Jim) b. 1846 (listed as a Robert 1860 census
???) The brothers John and George were available for duty at the beginning of the Civil
War. John did not join but fled to Maryland where he spent time aboard a whaling ship
and was also taken prisoner at some point and sometime later is said to have escaped.
Maybe the tales of his adventures were in his head as told to kin when he returned or
fact, maybe a little of both. George was not so lucky, Hit by a cannon ball and killed
Battle of Bull Run, Manassas, Va. after 1862, so that would make it the second battle.
Youngest son James was said to have been a math genius, "Hit in the head by his
stepmother for eating one of her pies and was never the same." I hope the pie was good.
The Stepmother John I's 2nd wife was Jane Graves b. Ireland 1819 d. 1908 / 89 years.
Graves was her 1st husband's name. Her children by Graves:
John Graves 1844 // Wm. Graves 1846 // Joseph Graves 1849 // Barnett Graves 1851 //
Approx date by census ages.
John II / oldest daughter Stella never married and is buried next to her Grandfather
John I in Dexter Cemetery, 4th row across from tall monument of Gilmore.
Nicholas Van Brocklin d. 1884 age 89 (Dutch)
Nancy Ann Schell d. 1883 age 88 (Germany)
Parents of Margaret (Van Brocklin) Biggers
Nancy Ann Schell's Father was Marcus Schell b. June 6,1764 Herkimer Co. NY Chr. July 5,
1764 Reformed Dutch Church of German Flats married Catherine Elizabeth Roan b. circa
1770 Herkimer , March 25 1788. Died after 1832 Herkimer NY
Marcus Schell's Father was Johnannes Schell arrived port of Philadelpia 1732 or 1752 /
Mother was Barbara Raspach.( I found a ship listing some years ago 10th Oct 1752 Phil.,
Tuesday Ship " FOREST" Capt. Patrick Auchterlony from Rotterdam / Maybe??? )
Do you know that both Eva & Arthur named a son Paul. Arthur's son was Paul Everett b.
June 18,1910. Strange your name is Paul. Is your line Eva's Paul Webert. We want to
know more about Eva's sons and where they went and the lives they lead. Arthur's
children where artists / landscape architect / naturalist / seems thay had a deep
appreciation for nature's beauty.
David.
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St. James Church
-----Original Message-----
From: Francis Jackson [mailto:balljack@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:43 PM
To: pkelly@astound.net
Subject: Marriage Fraley-Besha
My wife and I volunteer @ the Carthage Heritage in the Library and she found this record of marriage in the St James Church folder. (attached) We scanned the Carthage Republican Tribune from the 01 Jul 1908-10 Sep
1908 for the Nuptials but couldn't find one.
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- [S137] Lee Van Brocklin, (November 24, 1998).
- [S138] Letter from Edna Sheldon, Edna Sheldon, (August 8, 1965, Copenhagen, New York).
- [S139] Compilation by Walter L. Van Brocklin, Walter L. Van Brocklin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, (
"Converted to digital format by John J. Van Brocklin (jjvb@alltel.net)
I make no guarantees as to the accuracy of the conversion, although I tried to do as good a job as possible given the condition of my originals and the process involved."
Electronic version: VAN BROCKLIN FAMILY GENEALOGY.doc (Microsoft Word 8.0)
Author: jjvb (John J. Van Brocklin)
Last Saved By: JJVB
Revision Number: 873
Date Created: 2/9/1999
Date Last Saved: 3/30/2001) (Reliability: 3), 2 Jan 2005.
These descendants of whom we know and have copies of their application papers are the late member of the Van Brocklin Family Association, Florence Biggers Bedell, whose National Number in that Society is #506787. She was also admitted to the New York State Chapter, Seneca Falls Sa-Go-Ye-Wat-Ha Chapter showing that she is (or was) the daughter of Arthur Biggers and Emma Ainsworth, granddaughter of John Bitters and Margaret Van Brocklin, great-granddaughter of Nicholas Van Brocklin and Nancy Schell, second great-granddaughter of Marcus Schell and Catharine Raan, and third great-granddaughter of Johannes Schell and Barbara Raspach.
....+288 - Margaret Margaret was born in 1831. She married John Diggers. Our late member, Florence Biggers Bedell, supplied data on their family. Further....
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